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Post  lewism5964 Sun May 20, 2012 3:49 am

Just thought I'd create a thread to help keep track of who has signed on for next season, who has left and what new arrivals we have. Any news on the squad so far?
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Post  Leethall Sun May 20, 2012 9:13 am

I would imagine that only Asa Charlton is in situ and I don't think you can officially sign players until after the AGM, Fingers will know.

It would be interesting who signs, I would imagine though that a number of players from last season will more than likely be snapped up by better sides for next season IMO (eg Grimes, Hickman, Hendrie).
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Post  Bob Marley Sun May 20, 2012 9:45 am

Leethall wrote:I would imagine that only Asa Charlton is in situ and I don't think you can officially sign players until after the AGM, Fingers will know.

It would be interesting who signs, I would imagine though that a number of players from last season will more than likely be snapped up by better sides for next season IMO (eg Grimes, Hickman, Hendrie).

Leethall...what do you consider 'a better side'...one who offers more money?
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Post  Leethall Sun May 20, 2012 9:48 am

Bob Marley wrote:
Leethall wrote:I would imagine that only Asa Charlton is in situ and I don't think you can officially sign players until after the AGM, Fingers will know.

It would be interesting who signs, I would imagine though that a number of players from last season will more than likely be snapped up by better sides for next season IMO (eg Grimes, Hickman, Hendrie).

Leethall...what do you consider 'a better side'...one who offers more money?

Bob, no. A club that plays at a better level (eg BSN) or is a successful club (eg Brackley) or a club that finished higher in the league (eg Stourbridge, Barwell, Leamongton). Of course there will be players who will move onto earn some extra pennies at other clubs
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Post  Bob Marley Sun May 20, 2012 10:18 am

Leethall wrote:
Bob Marley wrote:
Leethall wrote:I would imagine that only Asa Charlton is in situ and I don't think you can officially sign players until after the AGM, Fingers will know.

It would be interesting who signs, I would imagine though that a number of players from last season will more than likely be snapped up by better sides for next season IMO (eg Grimes, Hickman, Hendrie).

Leethall...what do you consider 'a better side'...one who offers more money?

Bob, no. A club that plays at a better level (eg BSN) or is a successful club (eg Brackley) or a club that finished higher in the league (eg Stourbridge, Barwell, Leamongton). Of course there will be players who will move onto earn some extra pennies at other clubs

Oh, OK.
Question: Were the Reds a better side in the BSN when we had players we could not afford and were not paying for services around the club?
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Post  Leethall Sun May 20, 2012 10:34 am

Bob Marley wrote:
Leethall wrote:
Bob Marley wrote:
Leethall wrote:I would imagine that only Asa Charlton is in situ and I don't think you can officially sign players until after the AGM, Fingers will know.

It would be interesting who signs, I would imagine though that a number of players from last season will more than likely be snapped up by better sides for next season IMO (eg Grimes, Hickman, Hendrie).

Leethall...what do you consider 'a better side'...one who offers more money?

Bob, no. A club that plays at a better level (eg BSN) or is a successful club (eg Brackley) or a club that finished higher in the league (eg Stourbridge, Barwell, Leamongton). Of course there will be players who will move onto earn some extra pennies at other clubs

Oh, OK.
Question: Were the Reds a better side in the BSN when we had players we could not afford and were not paying for services around the club?

Depends which side you are on about?
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Post  Redditchbluenose86 Sun May 20, 2012 2:12 pm

I think Hickman has signed for next season, that's what I was told anyway
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Post  fingers Sun May 20, 2012 2:56 pm

Bob Marley wrote:
Leethall wrote:
Bob Marley wrote:
Leethall wrote:I would imagine that only Asa Charlton is in situ and I don't think you can officially sign players until after the AGM, Fingers will know.

It would be interesting who signs, I would imagine though that a number of players from last season will more than likely be snapped up by better sides for next season IMO (eg Grimes, Hickman, Hendrie).

Leethall...what do you consider 'a better side'...one who offers more money?

Bob, no. A club that plays at a better level (eg BSN) or is a successful club (eg Brackley) or a club that finished higher in the league (eg Stourbridge, Barwell, Leamongton). Of course there will be players who will move onto earn some extra pennies at other clubs

Oh, OK.
Question: Were the Reds a better side in the BSN when we had players we could not afford and were not paying for services around the club?

Yes - I'm not saying we should take that road, but they were a better side, and other than the latter stages of the Rod Brown era, you could argue they were better value for that money than the Reds team were towards the latter stages of the season just passed, pound for pound.
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Post  fingers Sun May 20, 2012 2:58 pm

Leethall wrote:I would imagine that only Asa Charlton is in situ and I don't think you can officially sign players until after the AGM, Fingers will know.

I'm not sure on the date, think it may be late June/early July, but you can't register players before a certain date, which is obviously after the various AGM's are done and dusted, otherwise how would clubs who may be laterally moved or reprieved from relegation know which body to register their players with.

The exception of course is any player who is contracted beyond the end of last season - Coleman, Hickman and Robinson were only contracted until the end of the season as far as I'm aware, unless any extensions were offered.

I don't know if you can extend a contract in the period before standard registration starts - logic would make me think you can to protect your assets, but since when did logic come into the beautiful game?
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Post  allotmentender Sun May 20, 2012 11:13 pm

Bob Marley wrote:
Oh, OK.
Question: Were the Reds a better side in the BSN when we had players we could not afford and were not paying for services around the club?

I would say the side that finished 9th in the conference north was certainly a better side than the one at present (not that I have seen anything of this present side really!!) just look at the thread on people favourite players (mainly of recent times) and you'll see a number of them players listed. Not really sure with the side that struggled thereafter, like I say, having only seen 1 Redditch game in the past 4 seasons!!!

If the question was;
Was the club in a better, more stable position in the BSN?

The answer would quite possibly be no!!!!
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Post  Bob Marley Mon May 21, 2012 9:41 am

OK...my side over the last say, 15 years...

1. Lewis 350 PW
2. Gill 200
3. Asa 200
4. Grimes 100
5. Big X 350
6. Palmer 300
7. Matty Blair 300
8. James Dance 300
9. Sylla 250
10. Matt Smith 300
11. Ducros 300

Total = 3k ish?? (without subs etc)

Redditch can afford tops 1.5k per week?.....it has never been able to afford 3-4k per week (please correct me if I am wrong?)

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Post  fingers Mon May 21, 2012 3:30 pm

Bob Marley wrote:OK...my side over the last say, 15 years...

1. Lewis 350 PW
2. Gill 200
3. Asa 200
4. Grimes 100
5. Big X 350
6. Palmer 300
7. Matty Blair 300
8. James Dance 300
9. Sylla 250
10. Matt Smith 300
11. Ducros 300

Total = 3k ish?? (without subs etc)

Redditch can afford tops 1.5k per week?.....it has never been able to afford 3-4k per week (please correct me if I am wrong?)

Rolling Eyes

Inaccurate and irrelevant.

How much players would have been on while at the club at different times does not equate to the budget being set at that level if you put them together.

We all have an idea of what the budget was at different times - some of us (including you and I, Bob) have an idea of what it was last season and what it will be next season - my point was that I feel RUFC got better value, pound for pound, from previous squads. I didn't comment as to whether RUFC could afford it.
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Post  Leethall Mon May 21, 2012 3:42 pm

fingers wrote:
Bob Marley wrote:OK...my side over the last say, 15 years...

1. Lewis 350 PW
2. Gill 200
3. Asa 200
4. Grimes 100
5. Big X 350
6. Palmer 300
7. Matty Blair 300
8. James Dance 300
9. Sylla 250
10. Matt Smith 300
11. Ducros 300

Total = 3k ish?? (without subs etc)

Redditch can afford tops 1.5k per week?.....it has never been able to afford 3-4k per week (please correct me if I am wrong?)

Rolling Eyes

Inaccurate and irrelevant.

How much players would have been on while at the club at different times does not equate to the budget being set at that level if you put them together.

We all have an idea of what the budget was at different times - some of us (including you and I, Bob) have an idea of what it was last season and what it will be next season - my point was that I feel RUFC got better value, pound for pound, from previous squads. I didn't comment as to whether RUFC could afford it.

^ This. Pound for pound the squad paid last year was poor IMO.
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Post  Bob Marley Mon May 21, 2012 6:30 pm

fingers wrote:
Bob Marley wrote:OK...my side over the last say, 15 years...

1. Lewis 350 PW
2. Gill 200
3. Asa 200
4. Grimes 100
5. Big X 350
6. Palmer 300
7. Matty Blair 300
8. James Dance 300
9. Sylla 250
10. Matt Smith 300
11. Ducros 300

Total = 3k ish?? (without subs etc)

Redditch can afford tops 1.5k per week?.....it has never been able to afford 3-4k per week (please correct me if I am wrong?)

Rolling Eyes

Inaccurate and irrelevant.

How much players would have been on while at the club at different times does not equate to the budget being set at that level if you put them together.

We all have an idea of what the budget was at different times - some of us (including you and I, Bob) have an idea of what it was last season and what it will be next season - my point was that I feel RUFC got better value, pound for pound, from previous squads. I didn't comment as to whether RUFC could afford it.

Not sure how inaccurate the post was but agree, irrelevant.
I was trying to point out that the Reds are still not at their natural level....to compete in this league the club needs to generate north of 220k and it does not do that.
Therefore, how do you think we will get a pound for pound better side when the club is now living within it's means?
This is the only reason Hydey left...let us not forget that..
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Post  ROWLY1971 Thu May 24, 2012 10:06 am

Bob Marley wrote:OK...my side over the last say, 15 years...

1. Lewis 350 PW
2. Gill 200
3. Asa 200
4. Grimes 100
5. Big X 350
6. Palmer 300
7. Matty Blair 300
8. James Dance 300
9. Sylla 250
10. Matt Smith 300
11. Ducros 300

Total = 3k ish?? (without subs etc)

Redditch can afford tops 1.5k per week?.....it has never been able to afford 3-4k per week (please correct me if I am wrong?)

Rolling Eyes

how can you possibly even ball park guess close enough to those 11 sets of wages to even attempt to give your post any foundation?
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Post  Guest Thu May 24, 2012 12:32 pm

ROWLY1971 wrote:
Bob Marley wrote:OK...my side over the last say, 15 years...

1. Lewis 350 PW
2. Gill 200
3. Asa 200
4. Grimes 100
5. Big X 350
6. Palmer 300
7. Matty Blair 300
8. James Dance 300
9. Sylla 250
10. Matt Smith 300
11. Ducros 300

Total = 3k ish?? (without subs etc)

Redditch can afford tops 1.5k per week?.....it has never been able to afford 3-4k per week (please correct me if I am wrong?)

Rolling Eyes

how can you possibly even ball park guess close enough to those 11 sets of wages to even attempt to give your post any foundation?

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Post  rawlings09 Thu May 24, 2012 12:35 pm

ROWLY1971 wrote:
how can you possibly even ball park guess close enough to those 11 sets of wages to even attempt to give your post any foundation?
ROWLY1971 wrote: Even I was shocked to hear that Swan admitted to an interviewed manager for the job that Redhead isnt a very good manager but gets players in on the cheap!

What sort of Chairman is he?

How can you possibly even ball park guess close enough to what was said in that meeting to even attempt to give your post any foundation?
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Post  ROWLY1971 Thu May 24, 2012 2:26 pm

Rawlings Im glad you went to the trouble! Saved me a job!!!!
you have just proved that this forum is 1 rule for 1 and 1 rule for others!!
thanks
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Post  redditch born Thu May 24, 2012 4:02 pm

ROWLY1971 wrote:Rawlings Im glad you went to the trouble! Saved me a job!!!!
you have just proved that this forum is 1 rule for 1 and 1 rule for others!!
thanks
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No its just a few bum boys who bang there own drum and think anyone with a view not in keeping to there GAY VIEW ! Are idiots???? Poor fools lol lol
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Post  andjusticeforall Thu May 24, 2012 11:02 pm

redditch born wrote:
ROWLY1971 wrote:Rawlings Im glad you went to the trouble! Saved me a job!!!!
you have just proved that this forum is 1 rule for 1 and 1 rule for others!!
thanks
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No its just a few bum boys who bang there own drum and think anyone with a view not in keeping to there GAY VIEW ! Are idiots???? Poor fools lol lol
thats just imature, homophobic and a bit rich coming from someone with a avatar of a man holding anothes mans penis! mind you they do say a picture speaks a thousand words.

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Post  Guest Thu May 24, 2012 11:41 pm

ROWLY1971 wrote:Rawlings Im glad you went to the trouble! Saved me a job!!!!
you have just proved that this forum is 1 rule for 1 and 1 rule for others!!
thanks
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Post  Guest Thu May 24, 2012 11:44 pm

andjusticeforall wrote:
redditch born wrote:
ROWLY1971 wrote:Rawlings Im glad you went to the trouble! Saved me a job!!!!
you have just proved that this forum is 1 rule for 1 and 1 rule for others!!
thanks
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No its just a few bum boys who bang there own drum and think anyone with a view not in keeping to there GAY VIEW ! Are idiots???? Poor fools lol lol
thats just imature, homophobic and a bit rich coming from someone with a avatar of a man holding anothes mans penis! mind you they do say a picture speaks a thousand words.

BIG LOL!!!!!!! Summer ins and outs. 1834 Couldnt have put it better myself!

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Post  redditch born Fri May 25, 2012 12:04 am

Oh look 2 gay boys have popped up overnight, lol lol
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Post  nevergreen Fri May 25, 2012 12:13 am

any news on summer ins and outs yet?
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Post  andjusticeforall Fri May 25, 2012 12:15 am

redditch born wrote:Oh look 2 gay boys have popped up overnight, lol lol
only one fool here and that's you, don't get too sun burnt on the playground today will you and if the girls bully you again go and tell the teacher.

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